A mouthpiece for Jazz Ballads or Something like Stan Getz music

[Chunsoo]

Hey I'm looking for the dark jazz ballad sound, I got an Otto Link STM 6* but I don't know if its the "right choice" for this, well I haven't tried anything but RJS on it and I havent been finding the right reed for it. For classical, I use a Selmer D facing and plan to upgrade it to a houlik next year, so I've been wondering if you need a more open mouthpiece for jazz ballads. Are there any recommendations for the tenor Jazz Ballady sound and what do you prefer for this genre, Hard Rubber or Metal? (I hope Gary won't post a link of a search again)

[Pete Thomas]

Hey I'm looking for the dark jazz ballad sound,

Any chance of a definition of "dark"?

[magical pig]

Stan Getz : rubber Link in a slightly more closed tip opening (like a 6) and a hard reed. The rest (and most of it really) is up to you.

Victor.

[Chunsoo]

Hey I'm looking for the dark jazz ballad sound,

Any chance of a definition of "dark"?

Um..sure, I'll update this when I get on my computer, I'm on using mobile for this.

[Tryptykon]

I'd recommend a Ralph Morgan mouthpiece in an ' L ' chamber .

[super20dan]

runyon sr is perfect for this

[silvin]

Play a Rico Royal 3 with your STM and relaxe your embouchure, you should be able to have what you want, since you have the sound in your head/ears

[Chunsoo]

Ok I'm looking for a sound like this:
http://www.saxophone.us/music/tenor_and_bass_ballad.m3u

[wisedude]

While I can understand the desire to change mouthpieces between classical and jazz, maybe changing mouthpieces for every type of song you play is not a good idea?

[spike421]

While I can understand the desire to change mouthpieces between classical and jazz, maybe changing mouthpieces for every type of song you play is not a good idea?

2nd the above

The Link you have and practice will work fine. Find a reed that is comfortable with your mouthpiece, probably around 2 1/2 or 3, and go for it.

[magical pig]

Ok I'm looking for a sound like this:
http://www.saxophone.us/music/tenor_and_bass_ballad.m3u


rubber Link in a slightly more closed tip opening (like a 6) and a hard reed. The rest (and most of it really) is up to you. Of course rubber Link really means any mpc with a medium-large or large chamber and a low baffle profile.

I used to get the same type of sound when I played a modern stock Tone Edge and blew the thing like a maniac...

Victor.

[al9672]

Have you recorded yourself and listened to what you sound like ?

[JL]

I'd venture to say if you can't get a "jazz ballad" sound on a Link, you probably can't get it on anything else either. Practice is the key as usual.

[Chunsoo]

But I don't know the right reed for the jazz ballads with the link

[gary]

I'd venture to say if you can't get a "jazz ballad" sound on a Link, you probably can't get it on anything else either. Practice is the key as usual.

I don't think you've played long enough to go on a mpc chase. Make the Link work for you. If you suspect it's not in top order, send it to a mpc refacer and ask them to "blueprint" it. That means to put it in the same condition as it was originally intended to be in.

Regerding your RJSs, you can go on a reed hunt or you can use the same equipment and spend the next two years practicing. If for some reason you just can't play the RJSs, check out Rico Royal, LaVoz, maybe even Hemke for that kind of playing.

Good luck. No "search" reference. ;)

[blackfrancis]

I'm with Gary- you should be able to play ballads nicely on a good STM. That being said, I'm also with Dan- the Runyon SR is my favorite piece for "tasty".

[JL]

But I don't know the right reed for the jazz ballads with the link

Any reed that plays and responds well for you should do the trick. There are so many different brands that will work, I don't think anyone can tell you that "brand X" is the right reed for jazz ballads on a Link. You are getting far too hung up on the equipment. It you were using a high-baffled 'pea shooter' mpc, then maybe some of us would advise you to look for a larger chamber mpc, with lower (or no) baffle. Something like a Link....

[Chunsoo]

Ah ok, I guess I'm on the reed search.

[dstack79]

Stan Getz : rubber Link in a slightly more closed tip opening (like a 6) and a hard reed. The rest (and most of it really) is up to you.

Victor.

+1. In fact, the somewhat harder reed on that Link you already own may get you closer to a "Getz" kind of sound than a different mpc would.

Your mpc is just fine. Be choosy about your reeds and just keep emulating the sound you hear in your head.
-Dan

[Dr G]

I'd venture to say if you can't get a "jazz ballad" sound on a Link, you probably can't get it on anything else either. Practice is the key as usual.

http://www.theowanne.com/mouthpieces101/playerSetUps.php?pid=43#SetUp

Stan Getz:

"1945-50: Otto Link 4* 'Tone Master'™; 1950-54: Streamline Brilhart Tonaline #7; 1955 +: Otto Link 5* 'Tone Edge'™ Rubber Florida"

Stan was known for playing a pretty stiff reed - he also played a LOT.

No short cut here, no magic formula. You're on the right track if you're hearing him in your head and trying to match the sound. The answer is not in the gear, it's how you blow.

[stormott77]

But I don't know the right reed for the jazz ballads with the link

Any reed that plays and responds well for you should do the trick. There are so many different brands that will work, I don't think anyone can tell you that "brand X" is the right reed for jazz ballads on a Link. You are getting far too hung up on the equipment. It you were using a high-baffled 'pea shooter' mpc, then maybe some of us would advise you to look for a larger chamber mpc, with lower (or no) baffle. Something like a Link....

+1. This sums it up. Just look for a reed that responds easily with a loose embouchure and think about the sound you want. It is good to warm up with a little bit harder reed for 5 to 10 minutes and then go down a half size. This will help get your air going to fill up that large chamber of the link.

[Dr G]

Here ya goes, Stan's words: http://www.melmartin.com/html_pages/Interviews/getz.html

[stormott77]

Here ya goes, Stan's words: http://www.melmartin.com/html_pages/Interviews/getz.html

Thanks that was great to read.

[jrvinson45]

I read the melmartin interview quite a while back, but can't access it right now. I think one thing that was key to Stan's sound was tipped off when I read that he thought "music should be pretty.." The players I like the most are the ones who tend to try and make their music "pretty." Not schmaltzy, just pleasantly listenable... what's the word?.... musical?

[Tryptykon]

I liked Stan's tone better before he endeavored to ' take the reed out of the sound ..' .