Half-unknown players

[Danishsaxguy]

Hi!

I've been listening a lot to different famous saxophonists, and have a diverse collection of music. Now i am on the look for saxophonists who is absolutely great, but isn't necessarily as famous as Parker, Adderley, Coltrane, Rollins and such.

Could be great with some suggestions!

David

[Sam]

A few suggestions:

Bill Pierce, particularly "William The Conqueror"
Jerry Bergonzi, try "Wiggy"
Chris Cheek, check "Vine"
David Binney, scope "South"
The late Carter Jefferson, I dig "Woody Shaw Live v.2" and Jerry Gonzalez' "Moliendo Cafe"
And Mr. Overlooked himself, the late Joe Henderson, especially "State of the Tenor"

Have fun. Report back please!

[brasscane]

Look up this (http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=51353&highlight=underappreciated+masters) great thread.

[baylistenor]

Carsten Meinert !

[CKsmallville]

http://www.scottburnsjazz.com

http://www.bobreynoldsmusic.com

http://www.chrisgreenejazz.com

All fantastic and soon to be well-known saxophonists.

[stormott77]

Joe Cohen of the Jazz Mafia in San Francisco.

[alexd]

Some names for you.

Paul Gonsalves
Booker Ervin
Don Byas
Ted Nash
Budd Johnson
Pepper Adams
Arnett Cobb
Dave "Fathead" Newman
Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis
Hank Mobley
Jackie McLean
Stanley Turrentine
Walter Blanding


phew, think thats enough to be getting on with!

[crazydaisydoo]

Bobby Jaspar
Richie Kamuca
Bill Perkins
Buck Hill
Tubby Hayes

[sonnymobleytrane]

A few suggestions:

Bill Pierce, particularly "William The Conqueror"


All of your suggestions are worth checking out. William the Conqueror is a great album, also check out Epistrophy.

[sonnymobleytrane]

Sal Nistico
Tina Brooks
Clifford Jordan
Charles McPhearson
Bob Mover

[GHawk]

Christopher Hollyday
Pete Christlieb - THE MAN!!!
Bobby Watson
George Coleman
Scott Hamilton - THE OTHER MAN!!!LOL

[belliott]

Johnny Griffin
Houston Person
Wardell Gray

[stormott77]

A lot of you guys are playing it safe. I want to see some lesser known sax monsters. This isn't my thread so ignore me.

[jrvinson45]

Check out Steve Marcus on the Buddy Rich "Jazz Icons" DVD... WHOA!

[Bebopalot]

Joel Frahm. http://www.myspace.com/joelfrahm

Currently one of my favorite sounds coming out of the tenor saxophone.

[brasscane]

A lot of you guys are playing it safe. I want to see some lesser known sax monsters. This isn't my thread so ignore me.
Well, then click on the link to Odsum25's thread above and you will see lesser known sax monsters until the cows come home.

[gary]

A lot of you guys are playing it safe. I want to see some lesser known sax monsters. This isn't my thread so ignore me.

Yeah, plenty of names have popped up that I would've thought were hardly half-known players. Of course, they could actually be half-known to the posters and OTOH, if someone is very familiar to you, you might assume that they are "known" when they are "half-known". :D

Here's another attempt, though:
Tina Brooks
Larry Monroe
Greg Badalato
Don Braden
Rainer Heute
Jürge Seefelder
Tony Lakatos
Herb Geller
Paul Horn
Andy Sheppard
Christof Lauer

[DiscipleoftheRefs]

Jimmy Greene
Ada Rovatti

some newer people, that aren't as well known.

[BOPITY FUNK]

Pete King
Dick Heckstall-Smith
Art Themen
Ronnie Ross
Bobby Wellins
Alan Skidmore
Dick Morrisey
Don Rendal
Don Weller
Andy Shepard
Mornington Lockett
Jean Toussaint
Alan Barnes
Ronnie Scott
Steve Williamson
Brew Moore
Booker Ervin
Tony Coe

[porbem]

Lotte Anker

http://www.lotteanker.com/

[porbem]

Some furher suggestions:

Jonas Kullhammar
Alberto Pinton
Fredrik Nordström
Mats Gustafsson
Tony Malaby
Mario Schiano
Frode Gjerstad
Steve Adams
MIchel Doneda
Daunik Lazro
Omri Ziegele
John Gunther
Sture Ericson
Bob Ackerman
Joe Giardullo
Urs Leimgruber

[belliott]

Jerry Weldon

[sonnymobleytrane]

FRANK STROZIER

Gary's suggestion of Larry Monroe reminded me of Frank Strozier. I was in a class taught by Larry when he hipped us to Frank.

Now that I thought of him, I can't think of anyone obscure that deserves more recognition than Frank Strozier.

[milomo]

frank strozier

He's one of my favorite alto players, and i really wish he was still playing. I was lucky enough to meet him once, and he was a very nice, humble guy. A friend of mine has a tape of him and George Coleman playing "Good Bait" somewhere, i think in Memphis in the 70's, and it's just ridiculous, those two guys play just about everything you can play on those changes.

[Third]

Ron Kerber

In the Philadelphia area, he's basically the king of saxophone.

[sonnymobleytrane]

frank strozier

He's one of my favorite alto players, and i really wish he was still playing. I was lucky enough to meet him once, and he was a very nice, humble guy. A friend of mine has a tape of him and George Coleman playing "Good Bait" somewhere, i think in Memphis in the 70's, and it's just ridiculous, those two guys play just about everything you can play on those changes.

I just listened to one of his CD's again recently and I just don't understand why he is not talked about more.

[sonnymobleytrane]

frank strozier

He's one of my favorite alto players, and i really wish he was still playing. I was lucky enough to meet him once, and he was a very nice, humble guy. A friend of mine has a tape of him and George Coleman playing "Good Bait" somewhere, i think in Memphis in the 70's, and it's just ridiculous, those two guys play just about everything you can play on those changes.

While we are at it you, Mike Karn ,deserve a mention here. That album (Head to Head) with Jerry Weldon is great. Also if you had anything more recent in print I would be interested.

[milomo]

frank strozier

He's one of my favorite alto players, and i really wish he was still playing. I was lucky enough to meet him once, and he was a very nice, humble guy. A friend of mine has a tape of him and George Coleman playing "Good Bait" somewhere, i think in Memphis in the 70's, and it's just ridiculous, those two guys play just about everything you can play on those changes.

While we are at it you, Mike Karn ,deserve a mention here. That album (Head to Head) with Jerry Weldon is great. Also if you had anything more recent in print I would be interested.

Thanks SMT, i appreciate it. Nothing new under my own name right now, but i'm working on it, hopefully i'll have something worked out before the end of the year. A record that i'm a sideman on that's out now is There Will Be A Day (http://cdbaby.com/cd/danielsadownick), by Daniel Sadownick. The band is great, Joe Magnarelli on trumpet, Rob Bargad on piano, Scott Colley on bass and Danny Friedman on drums, Dave Binney is on a tune, and Sadownick is one of the best percussionists out there, and he wrote his *** off too.

[Flâneur]

David binney!!!

[Flâneur]

I'll say it again DAVID BINNEY! South, Third Occasion.

[gary]

Joolz Gianni



(devil made me do it :twisted:)

[kevvieg]

Joolz Gianni



(devil made me do it :twisted:)

You are a funny man, Gary :D

[alexd]

jeez guys. he wanted "half unknown" players. Think the spirit of the question meant for us to provide names of the sub trane fame level.....

some of the names popping up are pretty obscure.

[Swampcabbage]

Frank Tiberi
Bert Wilson
Bill Ramsey
Jay Thomas
Chuck Stentz
Denny Goodhew

[gary]

jeez guys. he wanted "half unknown" players. Think the spirit of the question meant for us to provide names of the sub trane fame level....

"Sub-Trane"? That would be a very large list. :shock:

[falis]

Sam Rivers. Start with the Blue Note stuff like "Fuchsia Swing Song", "Contours", "Involution".

Charles Lloyd.

Warne Marsh.

George Adams. Start with Mingus' Changes I & II.

Anthony Braxton, Henry Threadgill, Julius Hemphill, Albert Ayler, Joe Henderson, Arthur Blythe, John Gross, Evan Parker, Dewey and Joshua Redman, Ravi Coltrane, Chris Potter, Lee Konitz (not really half-known), Jimmy Halperin, Mark Turner, ... (some of these guys may be for downstream listening).

Dare I say Ornette Coleman as half-unknown?

- Ed

[ioplm4862]

Masato Honda
Insane alto player from japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-DoXKwdt9s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_rk1TPx6E

[jrvinson45]

frank strozier

He's one of my favorite alto players, and i really wish he was still playing. I was lucky enough to meet him once, and he was a very nice, humble guy. A friend of mine has a tape of him and George Coleman playing "Good Bait" somewhere, i think in Memphis in the 70's, and it's just ridiculous, those two guys play just about everything you can play on those changes.

I just listened to one of his CD's again recently and I just don't understand why he is not talked about more.

One of my favorite alto solos of all times is Frank Strozier's on "K.C. Blues" on Don Ellis' "Autumn" album. It just came out on CD last year after much emailing and requests to have it released. The album is totally pure Ellis; however, Frank's solo is an absolute classic... totally a capella for several choruses before the band comes in. Buy it, buy it , buy it.

[sonnymobleytrane]

frank strozier

He's one of my favorite alto players, and i really wish he was still playing. I was lucky enough to meet him once, and he was a very nice, humble guy. A friend of mine has a tape of him and George Coleman playing "Good Bait" somewhere, i think in Memphis in the 70's, and it's just ridiculous, those two guys play just about everything you can play on those changes.

I just listened to one of his CD's again recently and I just don't understand why he is not talked about more.

One of my favorite alto solos of all times is Frank Strozier's on "K.C. Blues" on Don Ellis' "Autumn" album. It just came out on CD last year after much emailing and requests to have it released. The album is totally pure Ellis; however, Frank's solo is an absolute classic... totally a capella for several choruses before the band comes in. Buy it, buy it , buy it.

Again one of the all time greats on alto and never talked about. "Calm Cool and Collected," is a real nice album.

[Lefty]

Sonny Criss. And a second for Gonsalves.

Lefty

[SoLongEric]

James Spaulding and Sonny Simmons

[porbem]

Sam Rivers. Start with the Blue Note stuff like "Fuchsia Swing Song", "Contours", "Involution".

Charles Lloyd.

Warne Marsh.

George Adams. Start with Mingus' Changes I & II.

Anthony Braxton, Henry Threadgill, Julius Hemphill, Albert Ayler, Joe Henderson, Arthur Blythe, John Gross, Evan Parker, Dewey and Joshua Redman, Ravi Coltrane, Chris Potter, Lee Konitz (not really half-known), Jimmy Halperin, Mark Turner, ... (some of these guys may be for downstream listening).

Dare I say Ornette Coleman as half-unknown?

- Ed

Ed, The list is spot on. IMO Ornette (and most of the others, e.g., Rivers) have been just overlooked by many of us!

[Tim Price]

A topic of many views and ideas.

A close subject to me as well- There is a RICO BLOG I did on this.
HTH- Enjoy.

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[klodanis]

Harold Land

[cpete]

Jerry Jumonville
Al Belletto

[saxjd]

Bob Cooper
Harry Allen
Scott Hamilton
James Moody

[themacintrasher]

Matt Otto, Mark Turner and Mike DiRubbo.

[kevvieg]

Frank Basile, Lauren Sevian, Jason Marshall