Kenny G

[Third]

Can anyone point me to a solid example of album recorded poor intonation on behalf of this smooth sax man? I kind of realized that I've just joined the crowd of hating Kenny G over the past few years without actually listening to him...

Thanks

[DanCraven]

Those of us who don't listen to him may have a hard time with this. Those who do listen to him may not want to point out flaws. better to just let it be...

[gary]

edited: actually it's a legitimate question.

[Flâneur]

You may be opening Kendora's box.

[KevinSax]

someone should delete this thread or else the same dead horse is going to get beaten yet again

[andre251]

go buy a darn record third!!! Are you serious!!!??? This looks like you are going to try and cause drama, when your question can simply be answered, by buying a recording yourself!!!!!

grrrrr

[Third]

:shock:

I'm really sorry that this thread was taken offensively, I can completely honestly say I have absolutely no opinion either way (that rhymed :)), and was wondering if someone could persuade me. Andre, is his out-tonation so prevalent that just any record I pick up will yield my evidence?

Sorry guys...no disrespect.

[Bossman]

I sort of think that this is a valid question. The problem is that those who notice his bad intonation (and believe me, it's there,) are not usually the ones who will know offhand the names of albums and song names. Those who are familiar with him probably won't want to point it out (or they don't notice it.)

[cjmdsax]

Listen to his original recording of Songbird.
Forever in Love from the Silouette album.
There was a cut he did on alto that is almost entirely out of tune. I think it is "Home" on Silhouette. Basically he was flat, probably should have pushed the mp in.

Generally, I think his earlier soprano playing had some noticeable intonation issues but it has improved over time. For instance, he sat in on one song with Andrea Bocelli in 2007 (my wife loves this live dvd) and I didn't hear any issues there. I've heard some other later things that seemed more refined too.

[Pete Thomas]

I've heard plenty of people say he's out of tune, if he is then where does that leave me? Ouch!

You could say Bird played out of tune (sharp) or that Jackie McLean plays out of tune.

Some of the most boring players I've ever heard play in tune.

[hakukani]

I agree with Pete on this one. It's not Mr. Gorelick's intonation that I object to.

Listen to Coltrane's soprano on 'Everytime we say goodbye' from the My Favorite things album. He's agonizingly sharp. Ditto for Roland Kirk on 'The Haunted Melody'.

[CKsmallville]

I don't really care about his intonation. Like the other guys said, Trane played out of tune a lot and so did Jackie McClean. But for an example of out of tune G, I would look at "Esther" from Duotones. Absolutely brutal.

[DanCraven]

I don't really care about his intonation. Like the other guys said, Trane played out of tune a lot and so did Jackie McClean. But for an example of out of tune G, I would look at "Esther" from Duotones. Absolutely brutal.

wow....

It's almost as if they de-tuned the accompaniment to try matching him. Brutal doesn't begin to describe it.

[Enviroguy]

I am all about the G-Man!

Everybody knows it. Women really like it. And I can play it. In this one case, the musical bar has been set low enough that I can jump right over. Thanks to the G-Man, I too get to play weddings and other soppy events. ;)

[Pete Thomas]

But for an example of out of tune G, I would look at "Esther" from Duotones. Absolutely brutal.

Please never listen to me play then!!!

[andybaws]

Jackie McLean and Lou Donaldson both play consistently sharp, more than kenny G does, from what I have heard of his playing. You could argue this was an intentional, artistic choice though.

[CKsmallville]

But for an example of out of tune G, I would look at "Esther" from Duotones. Absolutely brutal.

Please never listen to me play then!!!


I don't understand. Why? Are you saying you play out of tune or are aware that you play out of tune?

[Pete Thomas]

But for an example of out of tune G, I would look at "Esther" from Duotones. Absolutely brutal.

Please never listen to me play then!!!


I don't understand. Why? Are you saying you play out of tune or are aware that you play out of tune?

I'm saying I don't think I play any less out of tune than Kenny, that I can tell. So if that means I play out of tune then yes. Most of what I've heard of kenny G sounds fine, and really very good within the genre of smooth or MOR pop.

What does out of tune mean anyway? How far off is out of tune? And are we talking equal or just intonation?

[Third]

Alright guys, thanks for pointing me to some of his recordings.

Songbird and Esther actually did give me what I was looking for, so I thank you.

Frankly, I think the Roland Kirk tune that was mentioned was more offensive than either of Kenny's, but that's just me...

[skeller047]

I think the reason that most musicians, and sax players most of all, don't like Mr. Gorelick (what an ironic name) is that he is so damned successful. I don't think anyone denies that Kirk Whalum or Richard Elliot or any of the other smooth jazzers should be successful, but no one has reached the level of success of Kenny G. I mean really, the dude just sounds like crap. Out or in tune, it doesn't matter, it just makes me retch. He should be thrown in jail for musical murder, but instead the public has rewarded him with millions.

[gary]

Frankly, I think the Roland Kirk tune that was mentioned was more offensive than either of Kenny's, but that's just me...

No, you can't compare the two. You see, Kenny G is a white Jewish guy playing in a banal genre where well-tempered intonation is an attribute and expected. Rolank Kirk is playing with an African/modal intonation to his melodc lines and that Arabian, African microtonality is a whole other tonal system.

[NissanVintageSax]

It's the promoter! The general public has fallen for the hype, and, as a result, most people now equate the saxophone to Kenny G, whether or not your style is even remotely close to his! I try to ignore it (and it usually works. Someone else will jump down said persons throat, so I don't look like an a** doing it myself!).

[stormott77]

I think the reason that most musicians, and sax players most of all, don't like Mr. Gorelick (what an ironic name) is that he is so damned successful. I don't think anyone denies that Kirk Whalum or Richard Elliot or any of the other smooth jazzers should be successful, but no one has reached the level of success of Kenny G. I mean really, the dude just sounds like crap. Out or in tune, it doesn't matter, it just makes me retch. He should be thrown in jail for musical murder, but instead the public has rewarded him with millions.

I think that he is important to the music world. He brings sax to people who wouldn't seek it out normally. Maybe some of those people will dig deeper and get into some Miles or Gordon. Writing a good pop song is just as hard as writing a good jazz tune. It just has different reasons as to why its hard. Is he the most technical player in the world, no. Can he connect to a large group of people with his music, yes. Monk wasn't a great technical player, wasn't really respected by a lot of legit jazzers at the time but he started a whole movement, much like Kenny has done with his music. I personally don't own any Kenny G because that isn't what I'm going for. I think a lot of guys are bitter at his monetary success. This is art people and it is completely subjective. Just because a guy likes a different kind of music doesnt mean he is wrong. For all the jazzers that hate kenny, how good of a jazzier are you? Are you as good at your genre as he is at his? LittleWailer had a great thread about jazzers who can't play funk. I love to play jazz but I also love to play all kinds of music and I think kenny does too. I bet he is actually a more versitile sax player than a lot of the jazz only guys.

[NissanVintageSax]

hehe :D Let the digging commence! The horse has risen from the grave, and shall receive its beating ;) .

[LampLight]

Frankly, I think the Roland Kirk tune that was mentioned was more offensive than either of Kenny's, but that's just me...

No, you can't compare the two. You see, Kenny G is a white Jewish guy playing in a banal genre where well-tempered intonation is an attribute and expected. Rolank Kirk is playing with an African/modal intonation to his melodc lines and that Arabian, African microtonality is a whole other tonal system.

Smoother than a gravy sandwich sir. Are you getting better with age, or what?

[stormott77]

hehe :D Let the digging commence! The horse has risen from the grave, and shall receive its beating ;) .

It seems like we do this at least twice a month. I feel sorry for Kenny. I wonder if he is on this forum and if he is I wonder if it hurts his self esteem. It's a lot easier being me, way less money to worry about and every one isn't hyper critical of my playing. I would say usually people are their own hardest critics but in Kennys case every one is hard on him.

[LampLight]

On a more serious note, I'd as soon let those that like Mr G enjoy him and focus on what's good about his music.

[NissanVintageSax]

..... focus on what's good about his music.

It's good for putting babies to sleep. Heck, it puts me too sleep! Every song sounds like a variation of the last one! Like mating whales ;) .

[Buck Laughlin]

KG is not my cup of tea. Nor is any of the smooth jazz that my local "jazz" radio station insists on playing. But KG obviously hit on something that many people want to hear. He's good at what he does, and a lot of people like what he does. I can say I don't like his music, but that's just one subjective opinion. It doesn't mean that it "sucks" from a more objective standpoint. More power to him, I guess.

Buck

p.s. Everytime I think of Kenny G, I think of Garth sitting in the dentist's chair in Wayne's World 2. Classic!

[Robysax]

I'm the kind of guy that likes to taste the orange even if somebody else sais is bitter.
And I'm the same with music, if I like it, I will listen to it even if nobody else like it.
With the G man, I have found that his early work is mostly out of tune, but his recent work is a lot better.
Why people likes him? He plays simple, he follows the melody, trow in a pentatonic here and there and goes back to the melody.
Lets face it, the mayority of his listeners don't know squat about melodic minor, mixolidyan scales or any other musical term, and are looking for music they understand.
If you listen to jazz is because you understand it, or because your father liked it and you grew up hearing it. I talk about my own experience, the other day I was listening to Miles Davis in my car and pick up a couple of non musical inclined friends, and they asked me what the heck is that music? It does not make any sence, I immediately said, this is music for educated musicians, (and laugh). They ask if I had Kenny G. LOL...
Well we ended the debate with Gerald Albright.

[KevinSax]

it people's fault for making Mr.G successful, not his fault. If he is what people want, so be it.
And... I have a wedding to play on saturday, and oh yes, Im going to G it up, then get paid ;-)

[mmichel]

I don't begrudge Kenny G his success, and I don't think that his music sounds bad. It's pleasant--schmaltzy and pleasant. There are many musicians that are more successful and less talented than Kenny G, and some of them perform music that isn't at all pleasant. My only beef with Kenny G (and I think this may reflect the problem that I and many other musicians have with him) is that, to many uninitiated listeners, he is the face of the saxophone and, unfortunately often, of jazz as well. This isn't really fair because it's not Kenny's fault, but the hundreth time you are asked "oh, like Kenny G?" when you tell someone that you play the saxophone, it starts to wear on you.

[dave2sax]

I love to play jazz but I also love to play all kinds of music and I think kenny does too. I bet he is actually a more versitile sax player than a lot of the jazz only guys.

I don't listen to Kenny G because I don't care for that style, but I'm willing to bet he could play circles around most non-professional players in any style. Ever heard him play Pick up the Pieces with Sanborn? Sounds pretty good to me....

[gary]

Oh Lawdy, Lawdy, Lawdy. 8-)

So, I was just wondering. Does anybody really think they have something new to add?

http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=104235&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=111528&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=105775&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=106334&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=12051&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=905&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=13304&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=100556&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=36140&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=17935&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=73094&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=71605&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=63394&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=62109&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=61093&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=48723&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=45158&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=44809&highlight=kenny+G

[Third]

edited: actually it's a legitimate question.

I appreciate that :)

Yeah guys, this thread wasn't meant as a discussion of Kenny G's success or playing style, it was for me to be shown why people make their claims with specific evidence, not opinions. I thank all those who addressed my question, and I'm satisfied with your responses.

[FranzKafka]

Oh Lawdy, Lawdy, Lawdy. 8-)

So, I was just wondering. Does anybody really think they have something new to add?

http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=104235&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=111528&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=105775&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=106334&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=12051&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=905&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=13304&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=100556&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=36140&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=17935&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=73094&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=71605&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=63394&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=62109&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=61093&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=48723&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=45158&highlight=kenny+G
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=44809&highlight=kenny+G

You are saying the same thing every G thread too, by the way.

[barrett tsuji]

Now I don't like kenny g but I realize he's probably not a guy who's a musicians musician and doesn't care what his fellow sax players think of him. He's only concerned about playing music for women and he's a millionaire because of it.

[ismail]

I am all about the G-Man!

Everybody knows it. Women really like it. And I can play it. In this one case, the musical bar has been set low enough that I can jump right over. Thanks to the G-Man, I too get to play weddings and other soppy events. ;)


Now I don't like kenny g but I realize he's probably not a guy who's a musicians musician and doesn't care what his fellow sax players think of him. He's only concerned about playing music for women and he's a millionaire because of it.

I don't think I can really add something new, as gary suggests...but this is getting a sexistic touch here... There may a group of "women" on this planet that digs Kenny G, but I think I never met one of those... Interesting to see that some guys seem to only meet the G-digging-women...

[gary]

There may a group of "women" on this planet that digs Kenny G, but I think I never met one of those... Interesting to see that some guys seem to only meet the G-digging-women...

This is a really funny comment, if you think about it. One of those below-the-belt shots that some only feel a day or two later.
Kudos ismail. :thumbrig:


(Now that I think of it, none of my significant others hardly even knew who he was.)

[hakukani]

There may a group of "women" on this planet that digs Kenny G, but I think I never met one of those... Interesting to see that some guys seem to only meet the G-digging-women...

This is a really funny comment, if you think about it. One of those below-the-belt shots that some only feel a day or two later.
Kudos ismail. :thumbrig:


(Now that I think of it, none of my significant others hardly even knew who he was.)

The elementary school uses the Gster's recordings during 'silent reading' time. They say it works great.

[jrvinson45]

There may a group of "women" on this planet that digs Kenny G, but I think I never met one of those... Interesting to see that some guys seem to only meet the G-digging-women...

This is a really funny comment, if you think about it. One of those below-the-belt shots that some only feel a day or two later.
Kudos ismail. :thumbrig:


(Now that I think of it, none of my significant others hardly even knew who he was.)

Now class, your next assignment is to write a poem using the terms: "G-digging women," and "P-ligging."

[Flâneur]

I am all about the G-Man!

Everybody knows it. Women really like it. And I can play it. In this one case, the musical bar has been set low enough that I can jump right over. Thanks to the G-Man, I too get to play weddings and other soppy events. ;)

The part I'm having trouble with is...do the G-digging-women think about Ken Doll when they're with you? That would be a deal buster. You'd be better off learning some Bay City Roller tunes. At least there would be some MILF's that would respect you for who you are. (Can we say MILF here?)

[NyNe143]

... (Can we say MILF here?)

LMAO! You just did!

[stormott77]

I like MILF and cookies.

[michaelbaird]

I am all about the G-Man!

Everybody knows it. Women really like it. And I can play it. In this one case, the musical bar has been set low enough that I can jump right over. Thanks to the G-Man, I too get to play weddings and other soppy events. ;)


Now I don't like kenny g but I realize he's probably not a guy who's a musicians musician and doesn't care what his fellow sax players think of him. He's only concerned about playing music for women and he's a millionaire because of it.

I don't think I can really add something new, as gary suggests...but this is getting a sexistic touch here... There may a group of "women" on this planet that digs Kenny G, but I think I never met one of those... Interesting to see that some guys seem to only meet the G-digging-women...
I've met alot of and dated those kind of women :shock: I'm so thankful I didn't marry one this time around.

[Swampcabbage]

I don't think it should be an argument whether he is good or bad. Intrisically there is no value in that sort of circular argument anyway. It's that you either like the music he chooses to produce or you don't.

I, for the record, don't. But, I will defend to the death, his right to record it. ;)

There are many things that can be said in defense of Kenny G tha thave been repeated around here, and some that haven't, probably. Ultimately, he got a lot of people to walk down the "jazz aisle" in the record stores that never would've thought about it. In many ways, he and The Cosby show were probably two of the largest influences on the financial "boon" of the 80's jazz movement. I know this from my expeerience of working in a record store back then. I had plenty of people come looking for his stuff and managed to talk them into buying some Miles and then they came back for some Trane and some Getz, etc...

Understand this though. Kenny never set out to make art. He set out to make money, he did, he succeeded at his own goals. So, I am conflicted. I am not a fan of his music today, but, I see the benefits it holds for me as a saxophonist. (Plus, some of his stuff with Jeff Lorber like Wizard Island and moments in Galaxian were very early influences on me so I can't totally deny his musical viability).

Now, the only diff between he and I is that I might have to play "Songbird" at a wedding and make $400 or $500 and he might make $40,000 or $50,000.

Of course there are also lot's of hardcore art jazzers who think it's okay to bash on Wynton Marsalis too. Yet, he play the duty out of the horn like noone's biz.

[Joe Jazz]

I don't think it should be an argument whether he is good or bad. Intrisically there is no value in that sort of circular argument anyway. It's that you either like the music he chooses to produce or you don't.

I, for the record, don't. But, I will defend to the death, his right to record it. ;)

There are many things that can be said in defense of Kenny G tha thave been repeated around here, and some that haven't, probably. Ultimately, he got a lot of people to walk down the "jazz aisle" in the record stores that never would've thought about it. In many ways, he and The Cosby show were probably two of the largest influences on the financial "boon" of the 80's jazz movement. I know this from my expeerience of working in a record store back then. I had plenty of people come looking for his stuff and managed to talk them into buying some Miles and then they came back for some Trane and some Getz, etc...

Understand this though. Kenny never set out to make art. He set out to make money, he did, he succeeded at his own goals. So, I am conflicted. I am not a fan of his music today, but, I see the benefits it holds for me as a saxophonist. (Plus, some of his stuff with Jeff Lorber like Wizard Island and moments in Galaxian were very early influences on me so I can't totally deny his musical viability).

Now, the only diff between he and I is that I might have to play "Songbird" at a wedding and make $400 or $500 and he might make $40,000 or $50,000.

Of course there are also lot's of hardcore art jazzers who think it's okay to bash on Wynton Marsalis too. Yet, he play the duty out of the horn like noone's biz.

Is circular arguing anything like circular breathing? If so, I gather Kenny is pretty good at that too?:TGNCHK:

[Carl H.]

There may a group of "women" on this planet that digs Kenny G, but I think I never met one of those... Interesting to see that some guys seem to only meet the G-digging-women...

This is a really funny comment, if you think about it. One of those below-the-belt shots that some only feel a day or two later.
Kudos ismail. :thumbrig:


(Now that I think of it, none of my significant others hardly even knew who he was.)

The elementary school uses the Gster's recordings during 'silent reading' time. They say it works great.

Isn't that similar to using a laxative to cure a bad cough? :shock:

[Carl H.]

Who's got the stick?

[NyNe143]

Who's got the stick?

This count?

[Bloo Dog]

Here in the PRC, KG's contemporary music is played in elevators. In my university, they've got a KG loop that's been playing in the elevators nonstop for two months. The Chinese students love it.

For fun, I took an English class to the language lab for a cultural discussion. I put on a couple of cuts from Jeff Lorber's "Wizard Island." Some of the students who actually listen to American music couldn't believe that KG was playing saxophone. Those who listen only to the easy Chinese listening music, well, they threw off their headphones (15 out of 20).

"That's crazy music!" one of them said. It disrupted their inner peace, it seems.

There are a lot of westerners who listen to music to maintain an inner peace, in much the same way some folks listen(ed) to John Denver. There's nothing wrong with it. Lotsa folks dropped 'Trane when he started on "Love Supreme" and "Ascension."

I admire KG for his early technical mastery. His precision and technical prowess in his early career easily rivaled that of Joe Farrell's (who also played with Jeff Lorber).

KG moved on. He's made a mint, and will probably continue to make a mint (which he richly deserves) for years to come. Lord knows, he practiced for years to get to where he is now, and he found his niche. For all anyone knows, he could be playing his ganoles off, blowing "Donna Lee", "Steeple Chase" and "Ko Ko" in some cheap whiskey joint on weekends under the name Kerry McGorelick. (He certainly has the chops).

Watch--- in a few years, he'll release an album of straight-ahead jazz titled something like "The Name's Kenny G.. Whatcha Got to Say Now?"

The day is coming.

[gary]

There are a lot of westerners who listen to music to maintain an inner peace,

There are, indeed, but if we're speaking in generalities, I think it might also be accurate to say that,
"there are a lot of westerners who hear (vs listen to) music as a diversion and distraction"
which, of course, does little for maintaining true inner peace. :hippy2:



BTW, thanks for writing "there are" vs "there's". ;)

[jrvinson45]

Now, the only diff between he and I is that I might have to play "Songbird" at a wedding and make $400 or $500 and he might make $40,000 or $50,000.

If I played a wedding, even for free, I'd be willing to pay $400 to NOT have to play "Songbird.":D

[michaelbaird]

Here in the PRC, KG's contemporary music is played in elevators. For fun, I took an English class to the language lab for a cultural discussion. I put on a couple of cuts from Jeff Lorber's "Wizard Island." Some of the students who actually listen to American music couldn't believe that KG was playing saxophone. Those who listen only to the easy Chinese listening music, well, they threw off their headphones (15 out of 20).

"That's crazy music!" one of them said. It disrupted their inner peace, it seems.

There are a lot of westerners who listen to music to maintain an inner peace, in much the same way some folks listen(ed) to John Denver. There's nothing wrong with it. Lotsa folks dropped 'Trane when he started on "Love Supreme" and "Ascension."

Dang, what would happen if they listened to Brecker; that would prabably cause them to get ill or have a heart attack or something.

[Bloo Dog]

There are a lot of westerners who listen to music to maintain an inner peace,

There are, indeed, but if we're speaking in generalities, I think it might also be accurate to say that,
"there are a lot of westerners who hear (vs listen to) music as a diversion and distraction"
which, of course, does little for maintaining true inner peace. :hippy2:



BTW, thanks for writing "there are" vs "there's". ;)

I can't agree more. Hearing and listening are two completely different things.

[Bloo Dog]

Dang, what would happen if they listened to Brecker; that would prabably cause them to get ill or have a heart attack or something.

Actually, I stepped up the complexity and the grit and gave them some Crusaders' "Put It Where You Want It" (from "Live in Japan"-- a kick-*ss album) and introduced it as a dance number. The diehards with the open mind listened and got a bit of a groove on it. The others didn't come around until I replayed the Beatles' "Yesterday" and "Michelle".

But the Kenny G loop continues to play in the elevator and the students love it.

Are they listening or hearing it? I'll never know. So much of what is popular in China is produced with the intent to maintain a peaceful state of mind.

[NissanVintageSax]

Fung Shue (sp?)

[modman]

Now, the only diff between he and I is that I might have to play "Songbird" at a wedding and make $400 or $500 and he might make $40,000 or $50,000.

If I played a wedding, even for free, I'd be willing to pay $400 to NOT have to play "Songbird.":D

I am working a wedding next Sunday, and I am gladly playing Songbird on soprano. I will send you my address and you can send me the 4 bills instead.

B8-)

[jrvinson45]

Now, the only diff between he and I is that I might have to play "Songbird" at a wedding and make $400 or $500 and he might make $40,000 or $50,000.

If I played a wedding, even for free, I'd be willing to pay $400 to NOT have to play "Songbird.":D

I am working a wedding next Sunday, and I am gladly playing Songbird on soprano. I will send you my address and you can send me the 4 bills instead.

B8-)

Not for PLAYING it! ;) Read it again...

[ismail]

Fung Shue (sp?)

Feng Shui?

[hakukani]

Fung Shue (sp?)



Fung Shue (sp?)

Feng Shui?

You do and you'll clean it up!

[michaelbaird]

Look what popped up on e-bay, vintage Gster.

[FranzKafka]

Look what popped up on e-bay, vintage Gster.

Hey I have one of those horns! Pretty funny thing, some kind of prehistoric ewi.

[R2D2]

Who's got the stick?

This count?




ROFL

Not saying anything:twisted:

[Overtoner]

I only read the first page and I'll think I'm bringing the thread some kind of back to topic.
But I just wanna note, that there is plenty of software which can correct the pitch afterwards. Ok, it sounds always a bit unnatural but in this kind of music no one will notice.

And futhermore, most of the hatred against Kenny G is just . I don't think he is a best blayer. And to be honest he achieved something which most of saxplayers haven't. He made a lot of money with it.
And when money counts (it always does) he is maybe the best sax player in the world.

If I could make that much money with the sax I also would just play smooth jazz like kenny although I absolutly dislike those kind of style