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woodwindmaster06
03-23-2003, 02:32 AM
Can you give me some dark sounding Tenor Mouthpieces or some mouthpieces good for a reference 54.
paulwl
03-23-2003, 02:39 AM
Darkness is relative...What do you use now on your 54? What kind of music are you using it for? Most important, how much darker do you want to get?
woodwindmaster06
03-23-2003, 02:42 AM
I use a Vandoren V16 T75, a would like to get a more dark sound, I use it for jazz, and classical.
rek
03-23-2003, 03:39 AM
For classical I use a Rousseau 5R : darker and broader than a C*
For jazz I use the same blank only it has been reworked by JVW to give me more projection - best jazz mpc I've ever played.
Sassaphone
03-23-2003, 04:05 AM
For a dark sound on my Series III I use a Morgan L. Doesn't get much darker than that.
Tears June
03-23-2003, 04:38 AM
What about a Metal Link STM + Hemeke reed? This combination will sound very dark. However, may difficult for the player who have less experience to playing altissimo note. You may try Metal Link + La Voz/SJ/Java.

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tomsch
03-23-2003, 05:17 AM
If you want dark you should try a JJ ESP without the spoiler. Very dark but still not too spread.
CodyW
03-23-2003, 01:58 PM
A Morgan 7L works really well on my Ref54 for that dark mainstream jazz. It still has fairly good projection too. It might be a little to edgy if you play it full time for classical.
singlereed
03-23-2003, 02:02 PM
The two darkest I have are; a copy of a '50s Otto Link (which tends to be a bit fluffy in a Ben Webster kind of way) and a Yanagisawa HR 5. I use a Vandoren T25 quite alot and it is hardly bright, it could be the more open facing you use is giving more edge than you want.
Tears June
03-23-2003, 04:40 PM
tomsch

Have you compare a Metal Link and ESP ? Which is more dark, full & rich?

Also, important is which piece are more easy to handle? Both piece has big difference in pricing. As many player know a Metal Link is not too easy to control especially for the new comer in tenor.

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paulwl
03-23-2003, 05:34 PM
Nobody's recommended the Caravan. It's expressly designed for darkness, not just a neutral, "unbright" tone. If a Morgan L or Rousseau R is too projecting, the Caravan could be your piece.

I occasionally use a Morgan C - the personality & feel of the L, with the edge "EQ'd" out. Very warm, but somewhat spread tone, with nice dynamics.

If you prefer a Selmer-approved option, or have to deal with Selmer purists, try a Larry Teal ("LT"; round chambered).
tomsch
03-23-2003, 09:09 PM
The best feature of the JJ ESP is how easy it is to play and control. Compared to the Links I've played it's darker but with a bit more center to the sound. Not quite as spread.
marc
03-23-2003, 10:53 PM
I have tried several mouthpieces for my Ref54 and here are the best dark sounding (for me) :
- Ebonite : Berg Larsen Gold Ebonite (105/2)
- Metal : Jody Jazz ESP (.100)

I am not a very experienced player but to have an idea, you can listen to some of my home recordings on my WWW site. All are made with the Berg Larsen, except one with the ESP.
Cameron Wigmore
03-24-2003, 03:14 PM
Try some morgans, otto links, and meyers. All hard rubber.
Thomas
03-24-2003, 04:04 PM
RPC....Ron Coelho makes the best playing and sounding mpcs I've ever used. I have a .110 tenor piece that is totally versatile, as dark and thick as you want but can be brightened up by reed choice and lig placement.Either way it has a great musical tone and blows beautifully. I used to have boxes of tenor pieces-I now have two- the RPC(they're all HR) and a Link STM 7* for when you just need to play Link. And my heartfelt thanks to all the folks out there that bought my Florida Links(about 25 of them) for crazy prices.
Tears June
03-24-2003, 04:53 PM
marc

I just visit to your homepage, which song you use ESP ?

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marc
03-24-2003, 10:28 PM
Tears,
On "All Blues" only.
Dr G
03-25-2003, 03:57 PM
If a Morgan L or Rousseau R is too projecting, the Caravan could be your piece.

I occasionally use a Morgan C - the personality & feel of the L, with the edge "EQ'd" out. Very warm, but somewhat spread tone, with nice dynamics.

Ditto the Morgan recommendation. I, too, have gone through many a mouthpiece (Barone, Lawton, Link, Selmer Soloist, etc.) and have only two mouthpieces selected for my Ref 36 - a Morgan "L" .110" and a Morgan "C" .095" (both refaced by Jon Van Wie).

I use the "C" for my classical quartet and small acoustic combo work.