There is something about the Dukoff/Super 20 setup

[Yellowhorn]

I play an old Miami Dukoff D4 (opened up to a D7, probably by Mojo) on my S20 tenor and find it a great setup.

Recently, I wanted to sell my S20 alto because, having tried different mouthpieces on it, I found its sound mediocre, stuffy, and stagnant. Before I sent it off to a friend who agreed to trade his Buffet S1 for it, I played the horn one last time and thought to myself, why not try a Dukoff mpc on it and see how it sounds?

So, with some cigarette paper, I put my tenor Dukoff mpc on the S20 alto, and WOW, what a difference it made! The horn became alive, singing effortlessly from altissimos to low Bb.

And, as you guessed it, I decided keep the S20 alto and am now getting a Dukoff alto mpc.

I can't think of words to describe the sound that comes out of the Dukoff/S20 setup, but it is unique.

[Turnaround]

After ALL that and trying to sell it, you change your mind?!~ Don't try to sell it here again. And if you do, I'll offer you $400 for it.

But as far as the tenor Dukoff on your alto, that's a large chamber piece on an alto. With a high baffle. I had a S20 alto and Dukoff alto worked but did not do it. It's like a V12 in a VW Beetle. I also had an S20 tenor and the Dukoff tenor that was AWESOME. Ferrari. Still have the Dukoff tenor. I would stay committed to your agreement. The Dukoff alto will not be what you hope it is.

[Yellowhorn]

Why the hate, Turnaround, about me selling or not selling my horn here? If you don't buy it, fine; but there is no need to say "Don't try to sell it here again. And if you do, I'll offer you $400 for it."

Who in his right mind would sell a like-new S20 alto for $400?

[Carl H.]

You are backing out on an agreement?

[stormott77]

The new dukoffs are not nearlly as good as the old ones.

[Turnaround]

No hate intended. Just, with as much effort (http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=105712) as you put into selling the horn, at the last minute when you have a trade, you back out???

I'd be surprised if I was the only one to think that.

I'm trying to help actually, as my opinion on the Dukoff/S20 alto setup is not a friendly setup. Bright and loud. The tenor can actually handle that much better.

But the Dukoff on an S1!! Now we're talking.

[TenTenTooter]

I would second the thought to be careful. A tenor mouthpiece on an alto will always yield different playing results of an alto mouthpiece of the same brand because of the chamber size and facing lengths/differences.

[kingsax]

I tried more or less the same thing on my 379xxx Silversonic alto, now normaly i use an old selmer soloist D with v16 2.5 reeds, i had borrowed a Dukoff D8 for the tenor (which i dident like at all) but tried it on the alto just out of curiosity i supose, went state on without any toilet paper and sounded great but the tuning was at best a semitone out, but never followed it up with an alto version, but would gues that the alto version would sound different again, for a start the chamber would be bigger on the tenor version and the facing curve would probebly be a bit longer as well.

[Yellowhorn]

The Dukoff D8 arrived, and as expected, it makes my S20 alto sing!

[milandro]

Good for you Yellowhorn.

I think that turnaround is referring to your sales pitch which read like this:


"....As can be expected from a Super 20, this horn has a huge sound. And because the horn is all-brass, its tone is warmer than that of silversonic ones. As for playability, this horn sings effortlessly from top to bottom........"

which is slightly difficult to match to :

"......Recently, I wanted to sell my S20 alto because, having tried different mouthpieces on it, I found its sound mediocre, stuffy, and stagnant....."


perhaps you shouldnt'have described you horn as rich and vibrant if you thought it was stuffy and stagnant, don't you think?:shock:

[wisedude]

Good for you Yellowhorn.

I think that turnaround is referring to your sales pitch which read like this:


"....As can be expected from a Super 20, this horn has a huge sound. And because the horn is all-brass, its tone is warmer than that of silversonic ones. As for playability, this horn sings effortlessly from top to bottom........"

which is slightly difficult to match to :

"......Recently, I wanted to sell my S20 alto because, having tried different mouthpieces on it, I found its sound mediocre, stuffy, and stagnant....."


perhaps you shouldnt'have described you horn as rich and vibrant if you thought it was stuffy and stagnant, don't you think?:shock:


The foundation of the market place is hear is entirely based on trust. We don't really have anything but that to ensure the exchanges take place to satisfaction. I am glad you have a saxophone that you love, though I agree your advertisement was troubling

[Grumps]

I know my Silversonic tenor seems to respond better with a high baffled mouthpiece. Should I put the rollover on it I use for my 10M (and it's a perfect match for that horn), I just don't get the magic.