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DanY
03-31-2009, 08:54 PM
Hi everyone, I thought i'd share pictures of my matching SML alto and tenor. They are stencilled 'Commodore, Made in France". I bought them a year apart, from two different people but they are only 50 serial numbers apart.

The alto 'little sis':

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr302/Pecktime/Sml%20Commodore%20Alto/IMG_0005.jpg

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr302/Pecktime/Sml%20Commodore%20Alto/IMG_0013.jpg

The tenor 'big bro':

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr302/Pecktime/Sml%20Commodore%20Alto/Sml%20Commodore%20tenor/IMG_0020.jpg

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr302/Pecktime/Sml%20Commodore%20Alto/Sml%20Commodore%20tenor/IMG_0023.jpg

sax-ony
03-31-2009, 09:18 PM
Wow! Very nice indeed. Thank you for sharing the pictures. Are you planning to have them put in top playing order? I'm sure they deserve it!

DanY
03-31-2009, 09:32 PM
The tenor has been overhauled (see my thread about 'SML not cutting through') , the alto is next.

One thing about the tenor, the neck is too big for the neck space in my SKB case, it has to fit down the bell!

Seasax
03-31-2009, 10:08 PM
just get a neck bag, there are plenty available and they're probably better than the neck slot in the case anyway. nice horns, its so cool that theyre 50 numbers apart!

DanY
03-31-2009, 10:17 PM
Yes, it's funny the amount of old horns that turn up in New Zealand. Especially european horns, i've seen Kohlerts, Rampones, those dutch ones, heaps of MkVIs here, old Keilwerths, Weltklangs, Karl Ludwigs etc.

I haven't seen as many american horns, they are outnumbered by the MkVIs ten to one.

nuendosan
02-23-2013, 07:57 PM
Wow! Very nice indeed. Thank you for sharing the pictures. Are you planning to have them put in top playing order? I'm sure they deserve it!

I have just bought a great SML tenor silverplate Gold Medal 16xxx and I also have a SML alto GM 16xxx and they are 121 numbers appart. I am rebuilding the tenor with Selmer style pinky plateau, cutting the cone to get better ergonomics and rebuilding low EB and C pinky plates. NO sax and I mean NO sax sounds better than a propperly set up SML GM.

rhysonsax
02-23-2013, 09:47 PM
I have just bought a great SML tenor silverplate Gold Medal 16xxx and I also have a SML alto GM 16xxx and they are 121 numbers appart. I am rebuilding the tenor with Selmer style pinky plateau, cutting the cone to get better ergonomics and rebuilding low EB and C pinky plates. NO sax and I mean NO sax sounds better than a propperly set up SML GM.

Yours sounds a bit like the SML tenor I now have.

It was originally an SML Rev. D from about 1954, but it has been radically rebuilt be a tech in Munich called Leopold Kondratov. My horn is pictured on his website: http://www.meinsax.de/fotogalerie.htm

Not only does it have a modern keywork, it also has unique mechanism with each key cup having a ball joint in the centre which allows it to float for a perfect seal before being tightened up.

There is a ring around the body below the strap ring where the body tube has been cut and the lower part rotated to give a 'balanced action' style (rather than the original in-line tone holes). The ergonomics are as good as most modern horns; only the F# auxiliary key (RH) isn't very well placed as it's too far back for me. The left and right hand pinky keys are fine.

It's a heavy beast but still comfortable to hold and play. The tone holes have rolled rims and all seem to seal properly, even after its trip across the Atlantic. I really like the silver plate finish.

The horn blows beautifully from bottom to top. I've never played an SML before, but the sound is lovely: slightly similar to my MkVI but with distinct differences. Easy at the bottom, clear at the top and a big sound throughout. Intonation seems to be good as well, except that A2 is very sharp for me - how is your intonation ?

Rhys

Tharruff
02-24-2013, 12:05 AM
Very nice...one time some years ago I was on a bandstand and a guy came up and sat next to me (a sub in the band I played in) carrying on a Balanced Action Tenor which was fairly unusual to see in the 1980's. What made this more unusual was that I was also playing a Balanced Action Tenor (still do) and the horn that the guy next to me owned was also EXACTLY 50 serial numbers newer than mine. Mine was (is) silver plated and unengraved, the other guy's horn was lacquered brass with the typical BA engraving...cabin and a lake, sailboat and a lake...one or the other...I thought it was way cool to have 2 BA's on the gig, plus the other thing about the serial numbers being so close...