xax
01-17-2009, 10:51 PM
Not sure if this should go here or in the manufacturing forum. At any rate, my latest information regarding differences between HN White Cleveland brand saxophones and the Zephyr and Super 20 horns is that while the Cleveland, and I presume American Standard, models were drawn on the same mandrels as the Zephyr and the Super20, they always(?)had "pulled" rather than hard-soldered tone holes. At some point(70s), they tried to do likewise with the Zs and S20s, but the results did not satisfy their quality standards.
Regarding the differences between earlier and later HN White horns, supposedly the earlier brass had red lead in it which made for a better quality of musical instrument brass. However, when I Googled brass composition, I found no reference to so-called "red lead" versus so-called "white lead" which Jack said, was used in later brass. His speculation was that the change in the lead content in the brass was due to laws meant to protect workers, in particular, against the harmful effects of (red)lead leaching from brass. Again, i could not find information to verify this so, TIFWIW. I have noticed that early horns seem have more red leaching or so-called "red rot" than newer horns but i don't know whether that's (red)lead or copper or what...8-)
Regarding the differences between earlier and later HN White horns, supposedly the earlier brass had red lead in it which made for a better quality of musical instrument brass. However, when I Googled brass composition, I found no reference to so-called "red lead" versus so-called "white lead" which Jack said, was used in later brass. His speculation was that the change in the lead content in the brass was due to laws meant to protect workers, in particular, against the harmful effects of (red)lead leaching from brass. Again, i could not find information to verify this so, TIFWIW. I have noticed that early horns seem have more red leaching or so-called "red rot" than newer horns but i don't know whether that's (red)lead or copper or what...8-)