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Paul Coats
03-05-2004, 11:36 PM
As some of you know, I am now the US importer of the wonderful new pro sax stands from the UK, Saxrax. www.saxrax.com

These creations are by John Cook, East Coast Wind, in England. John, you can tell from the product, is a player who knows what we REALLY need. These stands reflect John's "out of the box" thinking. Well, you can read about them on the site, or email John at eastcoastwind@ntlworld.com in the UK, and me, Paul Coats, here in the US at saxraxus@saxrax.com.

Guys, now I am getting calls from road managers, production managers, sound & light companies, for Saxrax products for concerts where only the best will do. I am simply blown away at the reception these stands are getting from top professionals.

Feel free to contact me with any questions, or an email catalog. It is large, about 800k, but has plenty of pictures.

Paul

mbarnard
03-06-2004, 03:02 PM
I got a question -

What happened to the other topic with questions / concerns over this product? Is SOTW endorsing this product? Your post sounds like an infomercial, and quite frankly, the removal of the previous topic smacks of censorship.

Paul Coats
03-06-2004, 06:55 PM
Hi, guy! Yes, this is an infomercial! This section is New Product Announcements, so this is the appropriate place to post this.

We have gotten stands out to a number of players, and have had wonderful responses to this new product line.

Ytrac Productions
03-29-2004, 05:54 AM
Well, Paul..you have convinced me..I have placed my order with you for the Bari stand with alto peg, the high alto/tenor stand..a 180 joiner, and the flute/clarinet peg

Cant wait to try them!! :lol:

Harri Rautiainen
03-30-2004, 07:58 PM
What happened to the other topic with questions / concerns over this product? Is SOTW endorsing this product? Your post sounds like an infomercial, and quite frankly, the removal of the previous topic smacks of censorship.
No, SOTW is not endorsing this product for two reasons:
1. SOTW has not seen this product
2. SOTW does not endorse any products except merchandize sporting the SOTW logo:
http://www.cafeshops.com/saxontheweb

The other topic was removed because we got several replies from a self-proclaimed "consumer advocate" writing "product reviews" merely on speculation, not based on any empirical observations or measurements.
That rendered the topic into a useless debate with a pointed agenda.

Certainly Paul's post exceeds what is allowed for a new product announcement here. I would welcome testimonials from registered SOTW members, though. Bulk of what Paul's message contains material taht belongs to a SaxRax web site, not here. I will have a dialog with Paul about editing it.

thanks for your note,

Paul Coats
04-03-2004, 11:03 PM
mbarnard, I'd like to apologize if you found my post too aggressive. I am sorry, I did not realize I would cause anyone to be offended as you obviously have been. We have been getting great reception of Saxrax products with top players around the country, including pros on tour with major recording artists, and my enthusiasm ran away from me.

And I apologize to Harri for any grief he has taken over this. When Harri gets the editing turned back on for me on this thread, I will tone it down somewhat.

Meanwhile, I will go pack some orders! Ytrac, thank you! Your bari stand will be here in a few days and I will get your order out to you asap.

SAXISMYAXE
04-04-2004, 05:00 AM
Frankly I fail to see how Paul's description of the new Saxrax EXCEEDS a proper product announcement. He concisely: lists the product's attributes, displays a few photos for edification, gives a few product endorsements to qualify the new item, and gives some contact info. Anything less than that would leave the potential customer crying for more information. Good grief, Charley Brown. :roll: [/u]

gary
04-04-2004, 09:57 AM
Well, the category is "announcements" not advertising, so I suppose an "announcement" would be to briefly describe the item, give some key infor and then say "for more info refer to the website in question" But, frankly it doesn't matter to me as long as I don't have to scroll forever to read more comments or feedback.

Having said that, I was at the Musikmesse in Frankfurt a few days ago chatting with Jody (Espina/Jazz) who was sharing the exhibit with Saxrax and I've got to say these stands are far and away the most versatile I've ever seen. It's like every other stand manufacturer has just duplicated the model and Saxrax has been thinking out of the box.

For example, a little velcro light to show the location of some item on or near your stand, or a stand that can hold either an alto or a tenor without readjusting anything. Er, go to the website in question for more info. If you're wanting to replace or upgrade your stand(s) definitely check these out before looking further.

Paul Coats
04-04-2004, 01:52 PM
Moderator fixed the link above.

Hurling Frootmig
04-04-2004, 04:29 PM
I've edited Gary's post to point at www.saxrax.com rather than what was typed.

mbarnard
04-04-2004, 07:00 PM
Hello -

I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, and I certainly don't want to come across as mortally offended over Paul Coat's posting (I'm not). What bothers me is the elimination of the previous thread discussing the relative merits of the product Paul is selling. I would like to think that if one wants to sell merchandise here, one would be willing to discuss the merits of the product being sold.

I understand that Harri eventually banned the self-appointed "consumer advocate" who posted most of the negative opinions in the deleted thread (I presume for harrassment which seems reasonable). However, I think the thread should have been left alone. Paul's subsequent post made the issue more apparent to me. Regards,

mbarnard

gary
04-04-2004, 08:01 PM
Hey guys, I appreciate the help but it wasn't my intention to direct my post to Saxrax. I used www-notarealdomain-com as a generic example in a generic post. Now my post points the reader directly to the vendor, which I was trying to avoid.

Hurling Frootmig
04-04-2004, 09:25 PM
Gary,

I've changed it hopefully to something you can live with. Shoot me an e-mail if you want me to edit it further. I didn't want it pointing to anything inappropriate (obviously not your intent).


Ed

Stacey
04-05-2004, 01:07 AM
FOR GOD'S SAKE, PEOPLE.

www.saxrax.com

They are available.
Some poeple will like them, some people will not.
Go buy one.
Don't go buy one.
It's your money - do what you want.

OR, AS AN ALTERNATIVE...

We can all be so mindlessly obsessed with being politically correct and astoundingly concerned with neutral posts that no sane reader will ever want to visit this section of the forum again!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Harri Rautiainen
04-05-2004, 08:38 AM
I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, and I certainly don't want to come across as mortally offended over Paul Coat's posting (I'm not). What bothers me is the elimination of the previous thread discussing the relative merits of the product Paul is selling. I would like to think that if one wants to sell merchandise here, one would be willing to discuss the merits of the product being sold.

I understand that Harri eventually banned the self-appointed "consumer advocate" who posted most of the negative opinions in the deleted thread (I presume for harrassment which seems reasonable). However, I think the thread should have been left alone. Paul's subsequent post made the issue more apparent to me. Regards,

mbarnardI restored the previous SAXRAX topic as requested. However, all follow-up should take place here.

mbarnard
04-06-2004, 02:43 AM
Thank you!

Morry
04-06-2004, 05:11 AM
FOR GOD'S SAKE, PEOPLE.

www.saxrax.com

They are available.
Some poeple will like them, some people will not.
Go buy one.
Don't go buy one.
It's your money - do what you want.

OR, AS AN ALTERNATIVE...

We can all be so mindlessly obsessed with being politically correct and astoundingly concerned with neutral posts that no sane reader will ever want to visit this section of the forum again!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I agree. The stands have been alternately praised and questioned enough already. Let's move on.

Paul Coats
04-07-2004, 12:27 AM
Gary: The small LED lights you mentioned... in a dark orchestra pit, or on a darkened stage, with a stand light in front of you, and the singer's spotlight glaring in your eyes, it can be difficult to see the pegs down there... somewhere... (feeling around)... so, these little lights can be attached to the stand, and the light will illuminate whatever it is you need to see down there.

I am pleasantly surprised at the demand for the set list stand. The guitarist has his copy on the top of his amp, ditto the bass. The drummer, on the bass drum. But where does the saxophonist put his? The top of the monitor slants the wrong way. If you put it on the music stand it gets lost in the music. So, the set list stand.

Also now, a curved soprano stand, and a curved soprano peg.

I have just received the first Saxrax Bass Sax stand. Anyone interested, contact me directly for pictures and other details. This is not an item stores are likely to stock.

Other new products will be announced as they arrive.

Ytrac Productions
04-08-2004, 03:21 AM
Well, the incredible endorsements and information that Paul sent won me over. My set of SaxRax {baritone stand, Alto peg, Hi Alto/Tenor stand, Soprano peg, Flute/Clarinet stand and LED lights} are enroute. Very excited about these. Paul has been Excellent with information and returning phone calls and emails. IF the stands are 1/2 as reliable as Paul, then they are incredible.

When they arrive, I will post my opinion and response to them. Again, can't wait for them to get here!!

Ytrac Productions
04-09-2004, 05:47 PM
Wow...thats all I can say..WOW!! I got my full set of Saxrax today, and Paul's excellent description does not do these justice. The Bari stand is incredible, weighing much less than I expected, but much more solid than my Beechler Bari stand that I paid much more for.

Have my full set up and it is amazing. I now have a place to put Soprano, Alto, Tenor, Bari, Flute and clarinet and not feel cramped. And the LED Lights..amazing. Very focused beam and the red light is not intrusive. Paul, when you read this, send me the set list stand and Stem adaptor as well. I want to complete the set!!

These products have my full endorsement. By far the best sax stands ever made!! :D

jr!
04-09-2004, 11:10 PM
Most importantly-what are the prices???

Paul Coats
04-10-2004, 02:33 AM
Contact me at my address below, I will send you a US catalog with price list. The catalog is appx 800k, and comes in a pdf format. Lots of pictures and descriptions.

Paul Coats
04-10-2004, 02:34 AM
JR, we are working on a Canadian distributor.

dee-nice1969
04-11-2004, 06:26 PM
Paul do you have a sax rack stand that can hold all three saxes? Soprano, Alto, and Tenor?

Paul Coats
04-12-2004, 01:18 AM
Dee-nice1969, yes we do... actually, Saxrax are separate stands that can be joined in any combination. We can easily put two stands together for you, with a soprano peg (straight or curved soprano). All of the various pegs, joiner, etc, can be used without tools, and the modular setup allow you to change it to suit in just seconds.

Last December I played a Christmas concert in New Orleans, and was seated on a very narrow riser. I could not use my two stands connected. They were easily separated, and placed where convenient. We all play a variety of gigs... concert band, quartet, jazz band, etc., and play different instruments for each. It's nice to have a stand system that can be changed to meet those needs.

Write me for a catalog, about 800K. saxraxus@saxrax.com You will see many of the various combinations.

We also have some new endorsers, Dave Watson and Darryl Dixon, also known as Chops Horns. www.chopshorns.com. They are presently on tour with Alicia keys. Dave and Darryl were featured on the cover of Saxophone Journal magazine last summer, and a nice article about them. These guys can PLAY!

DaveR
04-12-2004, 11:03 AM
Paul, can the baritone stand be used as a 'playing' stand or is it just for resting?
Thanks, DaveR

Paul Coats
04-12-2004, 04:10 PM
This is just a resting stand, not a playing bari stand.

Jody Espina
05-01-2004, 12:58 PM
After hanging out with John Cook at MusikMesse in Frankfurt, I am convinced that a Saxrax is the safest place to put your horn besides the case. What impresses me is that you can quickly and almost carelessly put your horn on the stand and not worry about it falling over or worry about the pads or guards on your low B and C# getting messed up. Cook's design doesn't need that little troublesome piece that most stands have. This is not the most portable stand I've ever seen but it is the best stand I've ever seen.

Paul Coats
05-12-2004, 01:50 PM
We now have a nice standalone stand for curved soprano saxophones, as well as an excellent curved soprano peg which can be fitted to our other stands. In addition, I can supply, upon request, a sopranino peg.

I will shortly have some more bass sax stands in stock. And I now have a good stock of our excellent bari sax stands in stock, ready to ship.

Our stands are available in silver and black colors.

JMac
05-26-2004, 07:30 PM
Can anyone tell me how much the Baritone stand goes for and how to get it? I've tried e-mailing 'saxraxus@saxrax.com' and 'tenorman@teche.net' on May 3rd to no reply. Anyone?....Anyone?...Buehler?

super20dan
05-26-2004, 10:14 PM
these look sturdy but i think they take up too much room on stage. some of us dont have enought room as is now and couldnt use a stand like these.

Paul Coats
05-27-2004, 01:02 AM
JMac, so sorry, I had tried emailing you, and the email catalog bounced. I have resent. If we can't get it through again, I will snail mail a printed copy.

The Bari Sax Stand is $189.00 USD, and fits low A and low Bb baris. It will accomodate all of our various pegs and accessories. You may mount an alto sax or soprano sax peg, set list stand, fl/cl, etc.

shmuelyosef
05-27-2004, 01:52 AM
these look sturdy but i think they take up too much room on stage. some of us dont have enought room as is now and couldnt use a stand like these.

I agree with you on the look of the tenor and alto versions (and I have no experience with those), but I have had one of the bari stands for a few months now and 1) it takes up less room and 2) fewer people trip on it as the feet are completely flat (unlike the typical tripod bari stand where the legs angle up from the feet. It does, however, take up a lot more room in my car as it does not fold much. I feel much safer with my bari on that than I ever have with any stand.

Morry
05-27-2004, 02:44 AM
In anohter thread the bari stand was quoted as $169. Has there already been a $20 increase in price since February?

JMac
05-27-2004, 12:02 PM
Received- thanks a bunch! (probably the new anti-virus software we had to install bouncing it back - sorry :oops: )

SaxPlayer1004
05-27-2004, 05:38 PM
do you know where we can find a price list for these things?

tophatsax
05-27-2004, 05:55 PM
Email Paul Coats at the address listed in his post above.

Paul Coats
05-28-2004, 03:21 PM
Yes, we have had to have an increase due to import costs being higher than first anticipated.

Anyone wanting an email catalog, it is pdf file 1 mb appx. Prices are on each page with each item, and a price page in the back. I can send a price sheet only, about 100k.

Morry
05-28-2004, 05:56 PM
Paul,

I'd like the catalog please. I'm going to be in need of a bari stand. Please use my email at the button below.

Paul Coats
05-29-2004, 12:17 AM
Sent.

Saxaholic
05-29-2004, 01:04 AM
I'd like the information catalog as well.

Please send to WalterNak8ATyahooDOTcom. Thanks.

Saxaholic

Paul Coats
05-29-2004, 03:11 AM
Everyone who would like a catalog, please contact me, rather than posting your request here. This will keep your email address less exposed and I will be able to see your request and answer it in a more timely manner. Thank you. - Paul